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		<title>The lust for certainty &#8211; a sin?</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[In a very good edition of BBC Radio 4&#8242;s &#8216;Analysis&#8217; programme towards the end of last year, the columnist David Aaronovich recounted a programme that he produced in the 1980s featuring the Archbishop of York, John Hapgood. The Archbishop, as far as I can see, had the kind of views that would appeal to a [...]]]></description>
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<p>In a very good edition of BBC Radio 4&#8242;s &#8216;Analysis&#8217; programme towards the end of last year, the columnist David Aaronovich recounted a programme that he produced in the 1980s featuring the Archbishop of York, John Hapgood.</p>
<p>The Archbishop, as far as I can see, had the kind of views that would appeal to a Guardian reader rather that an Anglican traditionalist.</p>
<p>Jonathan Dimbleby asked him if it wasn&#8217;t the case that people needed a bit of certainty about big issues in order to live their lives. the response that the Archbishop gave stunned Dimbleby and Aaronovich. He said&#8230;</p>
<blockquote><p><em>Has it occurred to you that the lust for certainty may be a sin?</em></p></blockquote>
<p>The <a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/analysis/7712933.stm">whole programme</a> is really worth listening to &#8211; I think that <a href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/podcasts/analysis/">podcast subscribers</a> get the option to download all of the archives and <a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/nol/shared/spl/hi/programmes/analysis/transcripts/06_11_08.txt">the transcript is here</a>.</p>
<p>One of my favourite political bloggers, Chris Dillow of <a href="http://stumblingandmumbling.typepad.com/stumbling_and_mumbling/">Stumbling and Mumbling</a> has written a great deal about the curse that the apparent need for certainty places upon democratic politics.</p>
<p><span id="more-390"></span>Just for reference, <a href="http://stumblingandmumbling.typepad.com/stumbling_and_mumbling/2006/11/plato_machiavel.html">all</a> of these <a href="http://stumblingandmumbling.typepad.com/stumbling_and_mumbling/2008/12/experts-the-demand-for-certainty.html">posts</a> are <a href="http://stumblingandmumbling.typepad.com/stumbling_and_mumbling/2008/12/experts-the-demand-for-certainty.html">worth</a> <a href="http://stumblingandmumbling.typepad.com/stumbling_and_mumbling/2008/12/experts-the-demand-for-certainty.html">reading</a>, but Chris&#8217;s strapline &#8211; <em>&#8216;an extremist, not a fanatic&#8217;</em> is probably traceable to his previous career as a stockbroker &#8211; and the advice that every trader receives during their career &#8211; that not being sentimental about stock is a good thing &#8211; and that fanaticism always clouds judgments.</p>
<p>Chris often promotes a <a href="http://www.philosophers.co.uk/cafe/phil_apr2002.htm">Rortean irony</a> as a way of viewing the world, and seems very stuck by James Surowiecki&#8217;s <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Wisdom_of_Crowds">Wisdom of Crowds</a> thesis &#8211; an attractive one, particularly to those who are more open to ideas of direct democracy than I would be.</p>
<p>And what does this distrust for certainty mean for advocates of local democracy? I&#8217;d say that it tells us that a great many consultations throw up the most useless information, as opposed to the most useful. If the general public are widely seen as being too apathetic to turn up to a polling station every few years, the idea that the bulk of people with lightly-held preferences will participate readily on a subject that they are not too bothered about, is a bit outlandish.</p>
<p>So we have, instead, the <em>usual suspect</em> problem. Where people with views that they hold fanatically are very keen to participate, and keen to be heard over the noise of the general public. People who have a vested interest are also likely to be much in evidence. But the <a href="http://blog.localdemocracy.org.uk/2009/01/13/eavesdropable-2/#utm_source=feed&amp;utm_medium=feed&amp;utm_campaign=feed">eavesdroppable</a> conversation &#8211; the one where ordinary people who hold their views fairly lightly meet &#8211; is one that is never fostered by most consultations.</p>
<p>As a result, we end up with the kind of <em>balance</em> that pervades so much of public life &#8211; one where balance is equated as being the mid-point between two poles of <em>groupthink</em> &#8211; rather than the balance that emerges from a wide range of views.</p>
<p>Which brings us back to the <em>parliamentarian</em> argument &#8211; the need for the <a href="http://blog.localdemocracy.org.uk/2008/12/02/why-is-representative-democracy-the-least-worst-option/#utm_source=feed&amp;utm_medium=feed&amp;utm_campaign=feed">distributed moral wisdom</a> of the elected.</p>
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