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	<title>Comments on: Should MPs and councillors take up cases on behalf of individuals?</title>
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		<title>By: Who will cover the cost of &#8217;scrutiny&#8217;? &#124; Local Democracy</title>
		<link>http://blog.localdemocracy.org.uk/2009/06/30/should-mps-and-councillors-take-up-cases-on-behalf-of-individuals/comment-page-1/#comment-309</link>
		<dc:creator>Who will cover the cost of &#8217;scrutiny&#8217;? &#124; Local Democracy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jul 2009 08:38:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] question and that post returns to a theme that Jenni Russell picked up on a few weeks ago (covered here at the time, and subsequently as the subject for a session at Reboot Britain) albeit with a focus [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Rog T</title>
		<link>http://blog.localdemocracy.org.uk/2009/06/30/should-mps-and-councillors-take-up-cases-on-behalf-of-individuals/comment-page-1/#comment-218</link>
		<dc:creator>Rog T</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 19:08:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Paul,

If you&#039;d spent the day reading through the Future Shape cabinet briefing you&#039;d miss the levity in Life of Brian, Morecombe &amp; Wise and Blazing saddles put together. 

I&#039;ve no idea whether you&#039;ve read it or what you think of it, but I think it could spell curtains for local democracy if Cameron picks up on the principles. It takes all the representation out of the process.

Much as I love indulging in tiffs with other like minded lefties, this is where the real action is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paul,</p>
<p>If you&#8217;d spent the day reading through the Future Shape cabinet briefing you&#8217;d miss the levity in Life of Brian, Morecombe &amp; Wise and Blazing saddles put together. </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve no idea whether you&#8217;ve read it or what you think of it, but I think it could spell curtains for local democracy if Cameron picks up on the principles. It takes all the representation out of the process.</p>
<p>Much as I love indulging in tiffs with other like minded lefties, this is where the real action is.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Evans</title>
		<link>http://blog.localdemocracy.org.uk/2009/06/30/should-mps-and-councillors-take-up-cases-on-behalf-of-individuals/comment-page-1/#comment-217</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Evans</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 18:05:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think you missed the levity in my last comment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think you missed the levity in my last comment.</p>
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		<title>By: Rog T</title>
		<link>http://blog.localdemocracy.org.uk/2009/06/30/should-mps-and-councillors-take-up-cases-on-behalf-of-individuals/comment-page-1/#comment-216</link>
		<dc:creator>Rog T</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 16:43:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was going to let this rest, but I simply can&#039;t let your complete distortion of the facts pass without comment. You live in Barnet, you are keenly interested in local politics, therefore you must be aware of Brian Coleman&#039;s comments regarding Irish Travellers (a subject I blogged) and their lifestyle. You suggested on my blog that I was &quot;sympathetic to flytippers&quot;. I merely asked you if your comment was a reference to my Irish ancestry. I passed no comment on your opinion of the Irish. In light of what you said and Coleman&#039;s previous comment it was a fair question. Did I say you hate the irish? No - I asked a fair question

As to accusing you of being a Tory. Again a gross distortion. I suggested that your view of how a councillor should conduct their business - no voter case handling - would fit rather well in with some of the practices of our local Tories. I also commented on the fact that the only local blog you linked to was the Tory Leader Mike Freer&#039;s. Not only is this rarely updated, but Freer never posts comments that criticise him. 

As to the Man United question. Being a City fan, I can understand that this may be a bit insulting, but I genuinely thought that you&#039;d realise it was an attempt to lighten the tone with a bit of humour.

If you say you&#039;re a Labourite, Irish loving, United hater, then that&#039;s fine by me. I just think that your blog readers deserve to be treated to some degree of context for your rather distorted take on what I&#039;ve said.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was going to let this rest, but I simply can&#8217;t let your complete distortion of the facts pass without comment. You live in Barnet, you are keenly interested in local politics, therefore you must be aware of Brian Coleman&#8217;s comments regarding Irish Travellers (a subject I blogged) and their lifestyle. You suggested on my blog that I was &#8220;sympathetic to flytippers&#8221;. I merely asked you if your comment was a reference to my Irish ancestry. I passed no comment on your opinion of the Irish. In light of what you said and Coleman&#8217;s previous comment it was a fair question. Did I say you hate the irish? No &#8211; I asked a fair question</p>
<p>As to accusing you of being a Tory. Again a gross distortion. I suggested that your view of how a councillor should conduct their business &#8211; no voter case handling &#8211; would fit rather well in with some of the practices of our local Tories. I also commented on the fact that the only local blog you linked to was the Tory Leader Mike Freer&#8217;s. Not only is this rarely updated, but Freer never posts comments that criticise him. </p>
<p>As to the Man United question. Being a City fan, I can understand that this may be a bit insulting, but I genuinely thought that you&#8217;d realise it was an attempt to lighten the tone with a bit of humour.</p>
<p>If you say you&#8217;re a Labourite, Irish loving, United hater, then that&#8217;s fine by me. I just think that your blog readers deserve to be treated to some degree of context for your rather distorted take on what I&#8217;ve said.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Evans</title>
		<link>http://blog.localdemocracy.org.uk/2009/06/30/should-mps-and-councillors-take-up-cases-on-behalf-of-individuals/comment-page-1/#comment-215</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Evans</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 08:22:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Christ Rog, where will it end? Each comment of yours is like a visit from http://www.passiveaggressivenotes.com/

Now I have &quot;total contempt for everything [you&#039;ve] written&quot;? 

And I know we&#039;ve traded a few insults lately, but &#039;support Manchester United&#039; is about as low as it goes. So far, you&#039;ve surmised that I&#039;m probably a Tory who hates the Irish - I&#039;d give up on this tactic of yours - supposing some personal flaw in the hope it reflects badly on the arguments.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Christ Rog, where will it end? Each comment of yours is like a visit from <a href="http://www.passiveaggressivenotes.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.passiveaggressivenotes.com/</a></p>
<p>Now I have &#8220;total contempt for everything [you've] written&#8221;? </p>
<p>And I know we&#8217;ve traded a few insults lately, but &#8217;support Manchester United&#8217; is about as low as it goes. So far, you&#8217;ve surmised that I&#8217;m probably a Tory who hates the Irish &#8211; I&#8217;d give up on this tactic of yours &#8211; supposing some personal flaw in the hope it reflects badly on the arguments.</p>
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		<title>By: Rog T</title>
		<link>http://blog.localdemocracy.org.uk/2009/06/30/should-mps-and-councillors-take-up-cases-on-behalf-of-individuals/comment-page-1/#comment-214</link>
		<dc:creator>Rog T</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 07:07:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yup, well having read a few of your blogs, I could certainly learn a thing or two about writing interesting blogs from you, he he he. Mind you I stopped being  a painter and decorator when I got fed up with watching paint dry.

I suppose you have total contempt for everything I&#039;ve written regarding future shape of Barnet Council &amp; The Sheltered warden cuts then, because I don&#039;t refer to some obscure political journal published on an obscure website.

It take the view that the purpose of my blog is to give issues which I consider to be important a wider audience. Whether you like my blog or not, I can assure you that the stats are pretty high. I can also tell you that the the Councillors of various shades take it rather seriously (more so than I ever expected). I completely understand why you don&#039;t like it, as it&#039;s a bit too low brow for you, but people regularly go out of their way to get in touch to either tip me off about stuff, tell me it&#039;s great or thank me for bringing issues to the table. You claim it&#039;s not for the universal good. I don&#039;t claim to be Jesus Christ, but I think it&#039;s a pretty positive force for good. I campaign against the BNP, dodgy Tory policies in Barnet, Boris Johnson &amp; his cronies &amp; other politicians who take the piss. I&#039;m surprised you object to that.

Am I right in concluding you support Manchester United? explains much if you are</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yup, well having read a few of your blogs, I could certainly learn a thing or two about writing interesting blogs from you, he he he. Mind you I stopped being  a painter and decorator when I got fed up with watching paint dry.</p>
<p>I suppose you have total contempt for everything I&#8217;ve written regarding future shape of Barnet Council &amp; The Sheltered warden cuts then, because I don&#8217;t refer to some obscure political journal published on an obscure website.</p>
<p>It take the view that the purpose of my blog is to give issues which I consider to be important a wider audience. Whether you like my blog or not, I can assure you that the stats are pretty high. I can also tell you that the the Councillors of various shades take it rather seriously (more so than I ever expected). I completely understand why you don&#8217;t like it, as it&#8217;s a bit too low brow for you, but people regularly go out of their way to get in touch to either tip me off about stuff, tell me it&#8217;s great or thank me for bringing issues to the table. You claim it&#8217;s not for the universal good. I don&#8217;t claim to be Jesus Christ, but I think it&#8217;s a pretty positive force for good. I campaign against the BNP, dodgy Tory policies in Barnet, Boris Johnson &amp; his cronies &amp; other politicians who take the piss. I&#8217;m surprised you object to that.</p>
<p>Am I right in concluding you support Manchester United? explains much if you are</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Evans</title>
		<link>http://blog.localdemocracy.org.uk/2009/06/30/should-mps-and-councillors-take-up-cases-on-behalf-of-individuals/comment-page-1/#comment-213</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Evans</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 00:09:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not very interested in unsupported opinion unless it&#039;s funny. 

I can&#039;t imagine why anyone else would be. I&#039;m sure that some people blog for therapeutic purposes - better out than in - but I&#039;d hope to avoid having to look at it much if I could help it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not very interested in unsupported opinion unless it&#8217;s funny. </p>
<p>I can&#8217;t imagine why anyone else would be. I&#8217;m sure that some people blog for therapeutic purposes &#8211; better out than in &#8211; but I&#8217;d hope to avoid having to look at it much if I could help it.</p>
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		<title>By: Rog T</title>
		<link>http://blog.localdemocracy.org.uk/2009/06/30/should-mps-and-councillors-take-up-cases-on-behalf-of-individuals/comment-page-1/#comment-212</link>
		<dc:creator>Rog T</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 17:44:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yup, that&#039;s me, completely thick. I do however think that you are the only blogger I know who says of other people

&quot;Opinions are like arseholes, Rog. Everyone’s gone one, and no-one really wants to hear them.&quot;

Most bloggers like to hear other point&#039;s of view. I think that if that&#039;s your attitude to other people, you&#039;ve got the wrong hobby.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yup, that&#8217;s me, completely thick. I do however think that you are the only blogger I know who says of other people</p>
<p>&#8220;Opinions are like arseholes, Rog. Everyone’s gone one, and no-one really wants to hear them.&#8221;</p>
<p>Most bloggers like to hear other point&#8217;s of view. I think that if that&#8217;s your attitude to other people, you&#8217;ve got the wrong hobby.</p>
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		<title>By: Standing on the Shoulder of Giants</title>
		<link>http://blog.localdemocracy.org.uk/2009/06/30/should-mps-and-councillors-take-up-cases-on-behalf-of-individuals/comment-page-1/#comment-210</link>
		<dc:creator>Standing on the Shoulder of Giants</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 15:43:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post and very interesting - love the debate over on Rogers site - shame he just does not get it. But then if you look through all of his posts, he spends his time attacking rather than debating.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post and very interesting &#8211; love the debate over on Rogers site &#8211; shame he just does not get it. But then if you look through all of his posts, he spends his time attacking rather than debating.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Evans</title>
		<link>http://blog.localdemocracy.org.uk/2009/06/30/should-mps-and-councillors-take-up-cases-on-behalf-of-individuals/comment-page-1/#comment-208</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Evans</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 08:10:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you look around, Rog, you&#039;ll find dozens of posts exploring the question of what &#039;representative&#039; means.

Here&#039;s a helpful link:
http://blog.localdemocracy.org.uk/category/representation/

You plainly don&#039;t understand what my position is on practically anything. No wonder people don&#039;t respond to your comments. Opinions are like arseholes, Rog. Everyone&#039;s gone one, and no-one really wants to hear them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you look around, Rog, you&#8217;ll find dozens of posts exploring the question of what &#8216;representative&#8217; means.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s a helpful link:<br />
<a href="http://blog.localdemocracy.org.uk/category/representation/" rel="nofollow">http://blog.localdemocracy.org.uk/category/representation/</a></p>
<p>You plainly don&#8217;t understand what my position is on practically anything. No wonder people don&#8217;t respond to your comments. Opinions are like arseholes, Rog. Everyone&#8217;s gone one, and no-one really wants to hear them.</p>
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